Did you hate Adam? Of course you did... - Page 2

**DPReporter** · 04-23-2009, 09:46 PM

Honestly, I haven't voted because I really don't feel like the episode really put forth a full on understanding of the situation and how it came to be and what possessed John to do as such. Really didn't feel like the episode put forth any sort of fleshed out development or reasonable logic either way for the way it happened.

Would have prefered to actually have some sort of idea of what John's perspective was on the situation and how it evolved.

**Janet** · 04-23-2009, 09:59 PM

Ditto Derek, I can agree with that. I wanted to see how John felt about having this son too. See John angst over whether to tell the boys. Know that it wasn't just a simple deadbeat move to keep it from Dean/Sam for reasons unknown. To know what this relationship meant to John.

**Jinnocence** · 04-27-2009, 03:36 PM

Go Lele, i hope you really hurt him!

**Shaula** · 04-27-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinnocence

Go Lele, i hope you really hurt him!

Oh, Julie.... You can be sure of this....

**Lara** · 04-28-2009, 02:18 AM

I voted last one, because I didn't hate Adam actually. Somehow it felt bad that he was dead already before brothers heard about him being existent. What John did was cruel towards those bit older son's who needed taking care and some fatherly love in their life as well. They grew just being together, little soldiers... I don't know if it was too painful to John to be with them, when Mary was gone, or what caused that behavior of his. He was too harsh to them, poor Dean he tried to be so good boy and be like Dad...that Dad could love him. I guess daddy issue wasn't so big to Sam, even it hurted him as well. Sam has loved Dean more than he loved their Dad always, I thought so. Sigh, this series is so sad.

smallville-29 · 04-28-2009, 04:32 PM

I think that John didn't show the love to Sam and Dean because he know that they were his weakness. Obviously Adam was not planned, but when it happened he made a choice... he was also still in a way "new" to being a hunter. Dean got sucked into it because he needed to look out for Sam when John was gone, John tried to keep it away from Sam just like Adam... but in the christmas episode we see that just being around John for a while leads to learning the life. I think that him going to take Adam to a game, and driving all that way shows what a FATHER he really is. (He didn't want Adam to be involved with the life, but still wanted to be there for him... also NOT telling Sam and Dean could be part of trying to protect Adam.) So when your thinking why didn't Sam and Dean get ballgames? That was a SIMPLE way for John to spend time with Adam, remember John spent time with the boys... but it was different. So when he goes to see Adam he tries to think "whats the normal dad thing to do?" Baseball game.

All in all I thought the episode was fine.

**kyrton_titan** · 04-30-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaula

Sorry, I understood wrong. I thought you meant that it was kind of everything ok now, because he is dead.

I just want to forget that this episode existed.

Ok I was confused but I also want to forget that the episode never existed. A dead brother??? I can't believe it. That's F***ed up!!!

**Shaula** · 05-10-2009, 08:12 PM

It's a good way to look at it, Spense. Just different than mine.

I don't blame John for trying to protect Adam. He was right to do it and also for trying to be a good father to him in the small amount of time he got with him. But I DO blame John for not being a better father to Sam and Dean, who deserved even more than Adam.

I just can't get over the fact that he "dropped everything and drove all night" to met Adam while he didn't even called back when Sam called saying that Dean was dying. (Faith, season 1) (steam)

**Jinnocence** · 05-13-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaula

Oh, Julie.... You can be sure of this....

I know I can count on you! :hug:

**bs624r** · 02-24-2010, 11:14 AM

I'm disappointed in John. (Shaula is going to kick his ass)

The only thing that dissappoints me about John is that Dean and Sam never had a chance, but Adam got a normal life (I mean he even took him to baseball games.) Maybe he should have tried harder to keep the hunting life out of Sam's and Deans till they were MUCH older.

View Poll Results: Did you hate Adam?
Yes. Who thought a third brother could be a good idea?	3	12.00%
Yes. Senseless pain for our boys.	3	12.00%
Yes. What was the point?	2	8.00%
Yes. I had a moment where I thought I might like him though.	2	8.00%
No. Why are you all being so mean to the boy? It's not his fault...	9	36.00%
I'm disappointed in John. (Shaula is going to kick his ass)	8	32.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

04-23-2009, 09:46 PM	#11
DPReporter DPReporter is enjoying ONCE UPON A TIME and GRIMM. Save Mesmerized by the DURANCE Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8,358 Thanks: 702 Thanked 259 Times in 191 Posts	Honestly, I haven't voted because I really don't feel like the episode really put forth a full on understanding of the situation and how it came to be and what possessed John to do as such. Really didn't feel like the episode put forth any sort of fleshed out development or reasonable logic either way for the way it happened. Would have prefered to actually have some sort of idea of what John's perspective was on the situation and how it evolved. __________________ EXPOSING the truth has never been this SEXY.

04-23-2009, 09:59 PM	#12
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04-27-2009, 03:36 PM	#13
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04-28-2009, 02:18 AM	#15
Lara Lara is Sam fan still what ever happens Save Site Staff Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 790 Thanks: 281 Thanked 79 Times in 61 Posts My Mood:	I voted last one, because I didn't hate Adam actually. Somehow it felt bad that he was dead already before brothers heard about him being existent. What John did was cruel towards those bit older son's who needed taking care and some fatherly love in their life as well. They grew just being together, little soldiers... I don't know if it was too painful to John to be with them, when Mary was gone, or what caused that behavior of his. He was too harsh to them, poor Dean he tried to be so good boy and be like Dad...that Dad could love him. I guess daddy issue wasn't so big to Sam, even it hurted him as well. Sam has loved Dean more than he loved their Dad always, I thought so. Sigh, this series is so sad. __________________

04-28-2009, 04:32 PM	#16
smallville-29 smallville-29 has no status. Save Supernatural S5 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 625 Thanks: 23 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts My Mood:	I think that John didn't show the love to Sam and Dean because he know that they were his weakness. Obviously Adam was not planned, but when it happened he made a choice... he was also still in a way "new" to being a hunter. Dean got sucked into it because he needed to look out for Sam when John was gone, John tried to keep it away from Sam just like Adam... but in the christmas episode we see that just being around John for a while leads to learning the life. I think that him going to take Adam to a game, and driving all that way shows what a FATHER he really is. (He didn't want Adam to be involved with the life, but still wanted to be there for him... also NOT telling Sam and Dean could be part of trying to protect Adam.) So when your thinking why didn't Sam and Dean get ballgames? That was a SIMPLE way for John to spend time with Adam, remember John spent time with the boys... but it was different. So when he goes to see Adam he tries to think "whats the normal dad thing to do?" Baseball game. All in all I thought the episode was fine. __________________

05-10-2009, 08:12 PM	#18
Shaula Shaula Brotherly Love is the key, the cause and it's making us whole Save SFO Site Manager Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 26,883 Thanks: 2,962 Thanked 3,900 Times in 2,298 Posts	It's a good way to look at it, Spense. Just different than mine. I don't blame John for trying to protect Adam. He was right to do it and also for trying to be a good father to him in the small amount of time he got with him. But I DO blame John for not being a better father to Sam and Dean, who deserved even more than Adam. I just can't get over the fact that he "dropped everything and drove all night" to met Adam while he didn't even called back when Sam called saying that Dean was dying. (Faith, season 1) (steam) __________________ SFO DTJA DTJP DTED "You can love a lot of people in this world, but there is only one person that you love the most." Thanks to Sarah_ben and Lere!

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