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Old 07-21-2009, 09:10 PM   #1
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On tonight's TV Guide's Megabuzz, Matt Mitovich asnwers a question about Chloe's role after Jimmy's death and her role as the WatchTower.

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The fans of Smallville's Chloe and Chlark were really put through the wringer last season. Is there anything for us to look forward to in Season 9? — Cassie
MATT: I hear you, and if the gloomy, Doomy events of last spring continue to cloud your memory, I strongly urge you to consider this the silver lining: The super-talented Allison Mack is poised to have some of her best material yet, as Chloe continues to process her role in Jimmy's death and deal with the resulting pangs of guilt. How will she ever make things right? Watch for Ms. Sullivan to pour herself into her role as Watchtower like never before.
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Finally... I love watchtower! Thank you for the news
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I'm loving this information! Thanks!
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As expected, this is Chloe's role for the 9th season as Watchtower. Basically, they were building Chloe into Watchtower full-time last season.
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Hide your pain into work.... the same spoiler for Clark. Maybe that's why they'll turn against each other, since he is not with good terms with Oliver ?
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I'm glad that she will be working as Watchtower and I'm looking forward to see the development of the Watchtower set. :D It's also interesting to see why there will some tension between Clark and Chloe. Like Amelie said, both has the same way to overcome Jimmy's death, the circumstances regarding Davis/Doomsday and Lois' missing.
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i love Chloe as watchtower :D
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Well this season sounds promising hopefully things don't crash like they did in season 8 which started with a bang and ended with a whimper. I always knew Chloe's place was with the JL.
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I just heard a joke but anyway, she will be pouring herself into the role of WT and Clark might not be so happy because of the Oliver betraying him situation. This has so much promise.
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I just heard a joke but anyway, she will be pouring herself into the role of WT and Clark might not be so happy because of the Oliver betraying him situation. This has so much promise.
ITA, now we just need Ollie back on track
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I just heard a joke but anyway, she will be pouring herself into the role of WT and Clark might not be so happy because of the Oliver betraying him situation. This has so much promise.
I don't think Oliver should be the only one Clark is angry with, IMO. Clark shouldn't be too happy with Chloe herself and her actions not because she is working with Oliver still.

WHich aslo don't get how Chloe still has that work.

Oliver made mistakes I fully admit but if Chloe actions are forgiven and forgotten Oliver's too
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I don't think Oliver should be the only one Clark is angry with, IMO. Clark shouldn't be too happy with Chloe herself and her actions not because she is working with Oliver still.

WHich aslo don't get how Chloe still has that work.

Oliver made mistakes I fully admit but if Chloe actions are forgiven and forgotten Oliver's too
But the thing with Oliver is that he's supposed to be a hero. But Oliver went really dark, he betrayed Clark and his mindset was just to kill. On Injustice and Requiem and the episodes leading up to the finale. Oliver needs to find himself again. And Chloe is already paying for her mistakes with the pain of finding and then losing Jimmy. Oliver is supposed to be someone everyone can look up to, not a murderer. Heroes are always supposed to look for other options, not just kill on first instinct.

With Chloe's role as Watchtower, she is going to have to work along side Oliver and that, within itself, may create more tensions between her and Clark.
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I stick to my point that Chloe working with Oliver shouldn't be the reason why Clark might have a strained relationship with Chloe this year

Chloe working with Oliver are the least of Chloe and Oliver's foults

And Chloe is already suffering? well good she need to feell guilty cause she is part of the reason Jimmy is dead

Oliver is paying his part too, he is going in a dark path. SO the poin t is not who should suffer more bith are oying their debts which I find GOOD. They should be responsable for thier actions not Clark.
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I stick to my point that Chloe working with Oliver shouldn't be the reason why Clark might have a strained relationship with Chloe this year

Chloe working with Oliver are the least of Chloe and Oliver's foults

And Chloe is already suffering? well good she need to feell guilty cause she is part of the reason Jimmy is dead

Oliver is paying his part too, he is going in a dark path
I know, there will be more to it with the events of EVERYTHING last season. But this may add to it, I think. Oliver is already a hero and what he did, was going to do, and wanted to do, is wrong. But Chloe was right about one thing, and I'll forever stick to it, if he had killed Davis, he would forever suffer from doing that. If he never had of tried to find another solution, he would have never been the same. That's one thing that we all know about Clark. You say you know the show like you gave birth to it, if that's the case, that's one thing you should know.

But all I'm saying, Oliver had all intent to kill. No second thought, no anything. It was as if it came natural to him and didn't phase him. When he turned on Clark, using his own weakness against him, that was really terrible. But the murder thing just tops everything off and even adds two bottom layers (cake reference, I think I may be hungry ) But as I was saying, it's far worse than what she did, by a long run.
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The only one I blame for Jimmy/Henry's death is Davis. He is the one that dam killed him. Chloe did not kill him. And that is the way I see it.

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I know, there will be more to it with the events of EVERYTHING last season. But this may add to it, I think. Oliver is already a hero and what he did, was going to do, and wanted to do, is wrong. But Chloe was right about one thing, and I'll forever stick to it, if he had killed Davis, he would forever suffer from doing that. If he never had of tried to find another solution, he would have never been the same. That's one thing that we all know about Clark. You say you know the show like you gave birth to it, if that's the case, that's one thing you should know.

But all I'm saying, Oliver had all intent to kill. No second thought, no anything. It was as if it came natural to him and didn't phase him. When he turned on Clark, using his own weakness against him, that was really terrible. But the murder thing just tops everything off and even adds two bottom layers (cake reference, I think I may be hungry ) But as I was saying, it's far worse than what she did, by a long run.
But no one is saying Chloe did worst than Oliver. I personally see it as the same level, if it is for murdering...both murdered a person, and before the Brianiac issue is brought on Requiem it was left ambiguos enough to doubt if it was actually Brianiac controlling Chloe.

But again that's not the issue, boh should be balmed for their mistakes and both should pay and take responsability for them. And I since the spoiler is about Chloe feeling guilty I think that is the least she should feel, she might not have killed Jimmy but she is as equally responsable as Clark sending him to take care Chloe and Davis, as Oliver involving Jimmy on his operations.

Clark is OBVIOULSY feeling guilty, Oliver according to reports is feeling gulty so Chloe should fee gulty as well, I dare to say her part is worst in this felony cause if she had listened Jimmy from the begining this wouldn't have happened

SO if the other two are paying, she should pay as well. And Clark should take all the responsability and if he is growing apart Oliver he as well should from Chloe and the consequences hsould be worst with Chloe cuase he was ot as close with Oliver and ven hwhen his crimes were bggers the trust was not enough. But with Chloe everything magifies so I hope Clark grow a backbone and don't take Chloe's foult as his and let Chloe clean of gulit
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But no one is saying Chloe did worst than Oliver. I personally see it as the same level, if it is for murdering...both murdered a person, and before the Brianiac issue is brought on Requiem it was left ambiguos enough to doubt if it was actually Brianiac controlling Chloe.

But again that's not the issue, boh should be balmed for their mistakes and both should pay and take responsability for them. And I since the spoiler is about Chloe feeling guilty I think that is the least she should feel, she might not have killed Jimmy but she is as equally responsable as Clark sending him to take care Chloe and Davis, as Oliver involving Jimmy on his operations.

Clark is OBVIOULSY feeling guilty, Oliver according to reports is feeling gulty so Chloe should fee gulty as well, I dare to say her part is worst in this felony cause if she had listened Jimmy from the begining this wouldn't have happened

SO if the other two are paying, she should pay as well. And Clark should take all the responsability and if he is growing apart Oliver he as well should from Chloe and the consequences hsould be worst with Chloe cuase he was ot as close with Oliver and ven hwhen his crimes were bggers the trust was not enough. But with Chloe everything magifies so I hope Clark grow a backbone and don't take Chloe's foult as his and let Chloe clean of gulit
But where does it say that she won't be feeling guilty? Let me please read that spoiler if that is the case and then I'll object! The writers never clarified whether Chloe or Brainiac was in control so I won't go there with that. But the thing is, Oliver physically went against Clark and on top of that, wanted to kill and did kill on more than one instance. He is Green Arrow, the hero of the comics. Darkness is darkness and he went dark.

Everyone should take responsibility for their actions and some more than others. Oliver has done worse. Clark has always been close with Chloe and you said he was really close with Oliver? Okay if you say so. Chloe was doing something right, not everything she did was right and hell it may have been far from it but she was saving Clark from something that may have consumed him. He shouldn't carry the guilt of both Oliver and Chloe because it isn't his fault and that is where I agree with you.

Chloe has a bigger role now and I'm glad. All that I am saying is that what she did, does not measure up to what Oliver did. Everyone will have to go down a dark road this season, and with the spoilers, some will go down an even darker one. Chloe has made some wrong choices and they may not have been the right ones but she believed she was doing the right thing. Whereas Oliver, knew murder was immoral, but tried it on more than one attempt.... Nothing about that strikes me as right justifying right, all I see is wrong trying to justify wrong and that'll never happened.

In the end, with the events of Doomsday, everyone was scarred and burned. Everyone had taken a part of the blame. With the Watchtower, Chloe can find the woman that we saw at the end of Hex.
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Again this is not comparing Chloe with Oliver, I am failing t see what Oliver has to do with what Chloe did.

Oliver is a whole otehr issue he shouldn't be involved with what Chloe did or did not do or her relationship with Clark.

Calrk and Chloe possible fallout is Clakr and Chloeż's problem, again what has Oliver do with this?

Chloe's actions and Clark's actions will be the ones having an impatc on thier relationship. ANd I don't get why we should go with the "ohh Oliver did worst" when he has nothing to do with this as now.

Chloe has all the reasons to feel guilt as she should, this was her husband dying on her arms in consequences of her decisions. She is going to throw herself at work because of that GOOD cause then she is showing she cares and assuming her part of the cake on this issue. That's her way of dealing with her gulti and grief? well at leats she is dealing with it and taking responsability of this tragedy.

And I repeat the if Clark is the one growing apart from Chloe the least of reason should be because she is working with Oliver.

The problems between Oliver and Clark and Oliver's and Clark's. He shouldn't expect Chloe to thorw out a good work as is saving teh wolrd because he and Oliver had unresolved problems. Big or small that's not the issue those are THEIR problems to resolve
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I think Chloe working with Oliver may already ADD to the Chlark tension, but maybe not be something that is at the forefront. Clark and Oliver have already argued over Chloe, so we know that's there to some extent. I don't think it'll be a major point of contention, but I'm sure it'll add fuel to the fire.
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Thanks for that Genevieve! It's exactly what I said and where the Oliver thing came from.
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This is really agree with but it was an result of protecting Clark. The Oliver thing has all the reason to be in the conversation, because it spawned from my reason why tensions may be high between Chlark.
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It was protecting Clark? well....I won't get into that that's floor from other bag, I don't beleive it was all for Clark but that's just me.

And I get why Oliver is in here what I don't get is why are we comparing him with Chloe. Clark and Oliver has issue that will "add fuel" ok, but I don't get why then we should comapere what Oliver did with what Chloe did.

What one did won't take the blame or make smaller what the other did. We know what Oliver did we know why Clark is or will be mad at Oliver, thing that we have too see first cause I haven't read spoielrs about Oliver/Clark, but that won't make any better what Chloe did or the reasons of the Chlark fallout or be the only reason of it
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Regardless, there's going to be friction between Clark, Oliver, and Chloe for the 9th season that stems from the last season finale.
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I'm gonna blame the writers here for making Chloe's actions somewhat ambiguous. More than once she claimed to be doing this whole Davis thing to protect Clark. I still don't get it, but it should have been made more clear, IMO, and I think we all know, that if nothing else, SV has mastered the art of ambiguity, and unclear character motivation for sure. I was certainly scratching my head over some of Chloe's actions the past season.

That said, my only other concern is that we don't get mopey, depressed, guilt-ridden Chloe for most of the season. How's that interesting television? And really, I don't think they should be shouldering her with all this tremendous guilt over Jimmy's death. Davis killed him, not her. There were other factors beyond her control that killed Jimmy. So I hope her mourning and whatever guilt she may have for her part is portrayed realistically, but not overdone. Give her time to mourn, but then allow her to grow. She and Oliver both need redemption arcs, badly. This is a perfect opportunity for them to help one another achieve that. Obviously, the Chlollie fan in me is happy about this possibility.

It's time for our heroes to start acting like heroes again. Frankly, I'm tired of the dark stuff. It's redemption time, people.
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Well, I'm glad they are at least acknowledging Chloe has something to be guilty about and that she'll be dealing with that guilt the best way that she can as Watchtower. If she's trying to redeem herself, fine. I was just worried that they wouldn't believe Chloe didn't have anything to be guilty about. Because, guys let's face it, whether or not Ollie did worse than her, she did screw up more times than one could count in the last season. And she has to own up to it.

Clark and Chloe's relationship will be strained because of the mistakes they both did in the last season. I don't think its because of Ollie at all. Ollie is another story entirely.
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